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+Thanks to Our Robot Overlords and Our Robot Overlords for scribing this week!
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+The transcript for the call is now available here:
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+https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2024-09-16-vc-education/
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+Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes.
+Audio of the meeting is available at the following location:
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+https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2024-09-16-vc-education/audio.ogg
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+A video recording is also available at:
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+https://meet.w3c-ccg.org/archives/w3c-ccg-weekly-2024-09-16.mp4
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+VC for Education Task Force Transcript for 2024-09-16
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+Agenda:
+  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vc-edu/2024Sep/0000.html
+Organizer:
+  Kerri Lemoie, Simone Ravaioli, Dmitri Zagidulin
+Scribe:
+  Our Robot Overlords and Our Robot Overlords
+Present:
+  Ildiko Mazar, Steven Crawford, Andy Griebel, Sheela Kiiskila, 
+  Jelle Millenaar [Impierce], Susan Stroud, Oran Dan, James 
+  Chartrand, Luisa, Dmitri Zagidulin, Nate Otto, Phil Barker, Deb 
+  Everhart, Eric Shepherd, Simone Ravaoli, Phil Long, Justin Cooke 
+  EC, Sharon Leu, PL, Nis Jespersen , TallTed // Ted Thibodeau 
+  (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com), Kerri Lemoie, Jeff O / HumanOS, Alex 
+  H, Chandi, Timg, Naomi, Colin Reynolds, Ed Design Lab, Laura 
+  Paglione
+
+<ildiko_mazar> Good morning, good afternoon everyone, welcome to 
+  today's W3C Verifiable Credentials for Education task force call, 
+  on Monday, September the 16th. Let's get started with the 
+  housekeeping items. IP Note: Anyone can participate in these 
+  calls. However, all substantive contributions to any Credentials 
+  Community Group Work Items must originate from members of the CCG 
+  with full IPR agreements signed. You can find the link to this in 
+  the meeting invites, but please note that you'll need to have a 
+  W3C account, but if you don't have one yet, it is also easy to 
+  register one online. Moving on to call notes. Please note that 
+  these meetings are recorded. We have a robot transcriber and we 
+  also make audio and video recordings, that are archived and 
+  available online. If you want to speak, please raise your hand, 
+  or add yourself to the queue by typing “q+” in the chat. And 
+  please be brief if you have a question to ask, we want to 
+  maximise the time for conversations. Thank you. Now to 
+  Introductions & Reintroductions. If we have any new people in the 
+  call, or somebody would like to reintroduce themselves, please 
+  feel free to take the floor. If nobody wants to take the floor, 
+  we can move on to announcements and reminders. Anyone has events 
+  or things that happened that people should be aware of, again, 
+  please queue yourself up and share the news with us. Now to the 
+  main agenda topic, that is Bridging Schemas & Translating Data. I 
+  would like to welcome and invite our guest speakers Oran Dan and 
+  Jelle Millenaar to take the floor.
+Our Robot Overlords are scribing.
+<susan_stroud> q
+<phil_barker> Is anyone speaking? I hear nothing.
+<pl> I'll be attending virtually, but not in person
+<ildiko_mazar> @Phile Barker, there is a conversation you should 
+  hear.
+<phil_barker> Thanks Ildiko
+Our Robot Overlords are scribing.
+Nate Otto:  Uh hi uh Nate here um thanks for the presentation 
+  this is a pretty cool exciting um.
+Nate Otto:  Technology that mode I contributed to the mapping on 
+  the desm project in the spring that maybe you you pulled this 
+  particular mapping and I was um just curious if you had any 
+  additional thoughts about uh the desm tool or its road map like 
+  for example I don't even know how to extract the mapping file 
+  that you used as an input here um.
+Nate Otto:  Was there any like difficulty or or enthusiasm around 
+  working with desam is it the right tool to do this sort of 
+  mappings that are in input to this project.
+<phil_barker> @Nate, the public output is a new feature, it's at 
+  the top of the mapping page: 
+  https://desm.credentialengine.org/mappings-list?cp=6&abstractClass=Assertion
+Nate Otto:  Great thank you for that.
+<sharon_leu> Wondering which are the obv3 elements that don't 
+  exist on the other end?
+Sheela_Kiiskila: Uh thank you for the wonderful presentation and 
+  uh uh maybe this is a wrong question to ask but I'll ask anyway 
+  so you you said this is based on um verifiable Elm model and and 
+  verifiable credentials uh I was wondering uh we use European 
+  digital credentials uh to give to the students and uh is it 
+  possible to map from the EDC if we want to use open Badges and 
+  give a badge you know as a progression or or or uh uh along with 
+  the EDC is that a possibility to just when we issue the EDC we 
+  can also use a mapping tool to extract a badge and issue.
+<pl> We don't hear Oran
+<ildiko_mazar> :-O
+<phil_barker> I hear him!
+<pl> Thanks Phil B. not sure how I lost audio
+<ildiko_mazar> Me too.
+Sheela_Kiiskila: Thank you yeah not to issue but once we issue we 
+  EC and issue them it would be nice to extract information from it 
+  and also issue a badge without uh doing it.
+Sheela_Kiiskila: Okay thank you.
+<ildiko_mazar> That's an interesting question in itself - 
+  extracting data from a signed credential and resign in a 
+  different format.
+<ronald_ham> @ Iloilo that is exactly what we are trying to 
+  achieve in DC4EU with all the partners in our Working package
+<ronald_ham> I meant @Ildiko
+<ildiko_mazar> :+1:
+<phil_barker> q
+<deb_everhart_(credential_engine)> we are happy to collaborate, 
+  and if you are talking to Phil Barker, he is working directly 
+  with us
+<deb_everhart_(credential_engine)> love seeing that this work is 
+  expanding and exploring additional use cases!
+Sheela_Kiiskila: Sorry I forgot to remove myself from the queue.
+<deb_everhart_(credential_engine)> I would think that this tool 
+  is useful for "translating" a holder's credentials even if they 
+  are not re-issued in a different schema
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: Oh yeah sorry I uh shop also from in 
+  technology that did this project um I just wanted to um mention 
+  that we're very happy to collaborate with this project that's 
+  really our goal.
+<ildiko_mazar> If you are joining the 1EdTech conference, the 
+  session I was referring to is on Friday 11-Oct. Read more at 
+  https://web.cvent.com/event/7fa940bb-8b8e-42f0-b02e-baf9e909ff1c/websitePage:b02ad9d9-260b-4530-bdd2-b863dbc3921f?session=a095db2d-5234-471e-b3c0-48e5ec15902b&shareLink=true
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: Um the debt is already uh putting 
+  some really uh good points in the chat about how this uh can be 
+  used and is can work in several occasions and that's exactly how 
+  we view this as well that this can be a tool that brings 
+  communities uh of different issuers and verifiers more together 
+  because you no longer need to think about the technical 
+  implementation of supporting multiple formats right like this 
+  kind of tool is trying to take away those problems and make sure 
+  that if there's a community really focused on creating Elm 
+  credentials and another 1 on open badges that they're not limited 
+  by these 2 different standards but rather that we can start to.
+<deb_everhart_(credential_engine)> +1!
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: Combine and interact with each other.
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: The similarly we also would like to 
+  do that with this kind of project right try to utilize the maps 
+  that has made and not reinvented ourselves and work with other 
+  solutions that are out there uh and combine that and make it 
+  something more promising and more and more valuable for all of 
+  all of us so if you're interested in this project and you would 
+  like to further talk to us about it or collaborate collaborate 
+  with us uh on that that's an open invite for everyone and feel 
+  free to uh to contact us uh at any time.
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: Yeah thank you for that question as 
+  well uh so for now uh we have indeed uh finished the first 
+  version of this uh of this project as far as it is funded um we 
+  absolutely have the intention to uh maintain it and expand it a 
+  little bit and uh uh completely integrated into our own product 
+  so you can indeed not just uh uh convert a credential but then 
+  also reissue it using our software uh but in the end uh there 
+  there still a lot more opportunities that can be done with this 
+  um and yeah for that we are absolutely looking for partners or 
+  grants uh grant opportunities to expand on this because yeah 
+  there's a lot of cool ideas out there um but yeah we're an open 
+  source uh development organization so we're looking for those 
+  opportunities in their.
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: Yes so thanks for that question.
+<dmitri_zagidulin> do you mind adding links to the Github repos 
+  for these tools?
+https://github.com/impierce/credential-converter
+<dmitri_zagidulin> thanks! :)
+<jelle_millenaar_[impierce]> Coverter: 
+  https://github.com/impierce/credential-converter
+<ildiko_mazar> Star already given after first encounter :-)
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: I just added some of the other repos 
+  we've also briefly mentioned our European identity wallet and 
+  also the identity agent that can be used for issuing these type 
+  of credentials um so.
+<dmitri_zagidulin> perfect!
+Jelle_Millenaar_[Impierce]: If you're interested in that as well 
+  the links are there.
+Sheela_Kiiskila: I was clapping and I think it took mistook me.
+<sharon_leu> Thank you!
+<deb_everhart_(credential_engine)> thanks all!
+<sheela_kiiskila> thank you