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Online Community Working Group #23
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I'm a bit wary of delegating this. I think what we have done with the Discord has worked well so far and I'm not sure people would be happy with having mods "imposed" on them.
I'm not so sure about the forum. One issue is that I think only Andrew has full access, right?
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That's fair, I could have worded this better, but initial idea was to simply formalize what we already do with a tiny bit more regularity. ie having the WG prompt the mod teams to review any new moderators, ask if anyone wants to step down at regular periods (eg 6 months)
Definitely not going to be imposing anyone on any community
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In this section, the delegation we want to focus on is what the board would normally ought to do, that this group could do instead. So perhaps this can be worded as:
Or possibly taken to another section altogether. The other two points below aren’t really current board remits either.
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I think these spaces have worked independently as a while being "non-official", so with that in mind...
I think this group (in coordination with the DSF) should be able to grant a space the "official" Django community status considering we might exist on new platforms in the future.
[In order to do that, I think there must be some set of guidelines in place (needs moderation for example)]
I also think it would be great if this group can help "retire" an online community that is no longer maintained or meets the guidelines
I think any community which has been approved by the working group should have a place linked on the website
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1000% this! Succession of platforms was one thing on my mind for this group with the recent drop off in the use of mailing lists.
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I don't see much delegated powers, either; this group seems more of a place for a community of practice than a group that needs to act on behalf of the board.
I s'pose at some point we could transition the budget for paying for Discourse to the group directly (and in theory Discord though I don't think we pay for anything there right?) -- that seems fine to me, but also it's such a minor thing it doesn't really matter where it lays imo.
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For Discord, I pay around ~$6 monthly to run a bot on Digital Ocean. It's arguable whether it's worth having or not as we have another (free) bot that does more stuff. But I would like to use it for more things, just, well, time :) - I'm happy to keep paying for it myself anyway.
One other thing we could consider is paying for boosts. These are like a yearly subscription more or less. If you buy nitro (kind of premium status) for your account you can boost a server. And then you can buy extra boosts. At the moment there are 12 people boosting the server, including me. This has varied and mostly increased over time. To keep the server at level 3, which has some benefits, we'd need 14. So there is perhaps a case to pay for some boosts. The most interesting thing we really gain from this is having a custom invite link, which I think would look something like https://discord.gg/django - which is a bit easier on the eyes than the current invite links we use (e.g. on the website). It's quite expensive at around (for me) €35 per year per boost. Worth it? Probably not, but good to keep in mind.
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Arguably it's moral to pay for the utilities we use if we have the ability to.
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I think it’d be good to be clear whether this is intended for all members to have those privileges, or only some. It’ll be trickier to get people involved with this group if there has to be enough vetting to make sure people are trustworthy admins. So personally I’d recommend moving this as a "nice-to-have" for group members.
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We have struggled a lot with other groups in selecting a Chair and Co-Chair, so just a heads’up this might go quite a bit faster if you just volunteer yourself for it. We’d be lucky to have you!
Re Board Liaison – we’ll have four new board members starting soon, who might be interested in this.
Re other members – please let folks know once you think you’re ready to start adding? We’ve sent a few people towards this proposal as part of the DSF board elections.
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I've been a bit busy of late, but now that I have caught up to a bunch of stuff...
I'm going to quote @knyghty who is hopefully still interested here:
Tom, I hope you are still interested :)
As a fellow Discord moderator and DSF member, I would be more than happy to join this WG, if you'll have me.
+1 to Andy as chair. If possible, a co-chair from another community would probably be good (currently, I guess that means the forums; I am curious whether Reddit should also be involved).
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In terms of Reddit, that is definitely a possibility, however I would want to have a conversation with the Social Media WG as per this post as to whether Reddit is a social media site or a community platform. Essentially I would like to see a clear ownership of different online spaces so that communication doesn't get confused both internally and externally.
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So... I do think that Reddit would fall better under this WG than the social media WG. However I don't see it as a blocker of any kind, but maybe something that should be talked about cross-group after this one is formed.
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Just a note here that I and a few others (whoever was in the ops team a few years ago, but not up to date, so e.g. Florian still has powers but Baptiste not) can see all private channels. This is unlikely to be an issue unless you're talking about someone who can see it, but just to be aware.