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Extension Types / User Defined Types #12644
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I'm not very knowledgeable about DataFusion internals or database theory, so it's hard for me to provide feedback on the proposal, but I'm very excited about the prospect of extension types to enable spatial types (#7859). I've been collaborating on the GeoArrow spec, which defines Arrow extension types for spatial data. It's important to have additional logical types because the same physical layout can be interpreted in multiple logical ways (e.g. an array of |
FYI i touched upon the topic of types on DataFusion meetup in Belgrade yesterday. |
I'm interested in this as well; however, I'm new to DataFusion development and I am not sure I have a handle on what the barriers are here (e.g., Is support for this blocked by lack of support in arrow-rs? Is there opposition to this on principle or is it just a matter of development time?). A few more (albeit geospatial) reasons to add support for this are (not-quite-merged!) support for spatial data in Iceberg and Parquet. As currently written, those proposals include type-level metadata (notably: the CRS), which would mean that reading Parquet files with those types would loose information. There are also other Arrow canonical extension types that have type-level metadata (which to my current reading, means that canonical extension types are not usable in DataFusion?). |
arrow-rs intentionally doesn't "directly support" extension types through Instead, arrow-rs supports extension types indirectly via the metadata hashmap on the I haven't closely followed the logical type work in progress in Datafusion but I assume it would be associating some Field with the physical type, and extension types could inject metadata there. |
I second @paleolimbot here, as I am also interested in this topic. To provide some context, we are currently creating a prototype that handles data that is encoded as a union with 10-ish different variants. Logically, this union represents the encoding of a single type. While we make ends meet by creating logical plans manually with specialized UDFs (e.g., for equality), we are in a very early phase. Only working with physical types will add lots of complexity to our code that can be eliminated with logical types (#12622) and its benefits (e.g., #12635) (I think™). So what our (dream) scenario is that we could define this extension type (and its encoding) together with implementations for equality, orderings, etc, and DataFusion would automatically make use of these when joining or sorting (AFAIK, this should be supported according to #7923). I'd like to support you in these efforts. However, while I read a few discussions and proposals, I am still a bit lost on where I can/should help out as this is (from what I see) a huge ongoing project across multiple issues and epics. Do you have pointers on where I could start helping out? For example, I found #13301, but I am unsure if the efforts on simple functions #12635 make these changes somewhat premature. Thank you for helping me to navigate this project! |
@mbrobbel has a nice proposal to add extension types in arrow-rs (which would potentially help ExtensionTypes in DataFusion). Would apprecaite any feedback: |
I started thinking about how the ExtensionType trait would be used in DataFusion. I think we would need to improve the APIs a bit to be in terms of |
Coming soon (arrow 54.2 in a month), support for Extension Types: |
Just a note to thank you for coordinating all of us on this effort! I am new to the code base and I don't have a great handle on exactly where to start, but I'm particularly interested in getting the extension type (or Field) propagated through to user-defined functions. |
Is your feature request related to a problem or challenge?
Currently DataFusion provides a lot of built-in types which are useful when building applications / query engines on top of DataFusion. However, even plethora of types is not enough. DataFusion doesn't have types existing in other systems, limiting DataFusion applicability as "LLVM for query engines"
For example, these types commonly found in other systems do not exist today
DataType
and the closest Arrow has is "timestamp(zone)" where each value is in same zoneDataType
and the closest Arrow has is "timestamp(zone)" with eg UTC zone. however cast to varchar for "timestamp(UTC)" and for "timestamp with local time zone" should behave differentlyDataType
and the closest Arrow has Utf8 potentially with some metadata information. Utf8 might be a perfect carrier type for JSON data, but "cast(json AS T)" and "cast(utf8 AS T)" are usually pretty different operationsDescribe the solution you'd like
CAST(array<T> AS varchar)
needs to know how to docast(T AS varchar)
. It cannot delegate this logic fully to Arrow, because Arrow won't have a notion of extension types.cast(... AS varchar)
. It cannot use the defaultcast(struct AS varchar)
.Describe alternatives you've considered
Everything is built-in
DataFusion could provide all types needed by applications building on top of DataFusion as built-in DataFusion types.
This would be easiest to implement, but could lead to scope-creep for the project. This could also lead to conflicts where types look the same but the desired behavior differs between applications building on top of DataFusion. For example Oracle's and Trino's "timestamp with time zone" can represent political zones while Snowflake's allows only fixed offsets.
No-op
Not providing extension types. This would limit DataFusion applicability.
DataFusion cannot be considered "LLVM for query engines" if it cannot serve as an engine, or potential engine, for existing popular query engines.
Additional context
The need to create extension types was raised in the [Proposal] Decouple logical from physical types
However introduction of DataFusion own types does not require introduction of extension types.
Extension types are complex enough (especially given their impact on functions) that they deserve their own roadmap issue.
The impact of extension types on functions, functions runtime and resolution is very clear, so this relates to Simple Functions initiative:
Having ExtensionType in arrow-rs would could the implementation simpler:
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